Tuesday, October 14, 2014

Amazing how much the Church's position on homosexuals has changed since 1994:

BBC:  Synod signals shift on homosexuality.

Spectator:‘Earthquake’ in Rome as Vatican synod talks about homosexuality and divorce

From the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church:

//2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.//

" They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity."

What would happen if people read the...you know..things that the Catholic Church teaches?


Lauran said...

Regarding homosexuals marriage, Pope Francis insists that homosexuals have "gifts and qualities to offer."

Just what does that mean, exactly??

I understand the media's penchant for taking quotes out of context but I'm beginning to wonder if Pope Francis is often deliberately ambiguous in his choice of words.

mrez said...

Pope Francis does speak in an ambiguous way from what I have seen. But it is true that gay people generally have a lot of talents and uniqueness to offer. Maybe in this case, that is all it means. I don't think it is wrong to acknowledge the goodness they are capable of bringing. But yes it will take a special edict known as a encyclical to know what he actually said. Some of the most talented people I have met (in the arts) have been gay or leaned in that direction, We need creative people. Can we accept them somehow and still call what is considered a sin, sin?

J. Hershaw said...

This is the coverage on the Huffington Post. It sure sounds like both the Church and the press think this represents a change in the making. The language you quote from 1994 sounds at best awfully condescending towards homosexuals. A good example of actual changes brewing relative to the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church you quote above, the article below points out:

"A number of participants at the closed-door synod have said the Church should tone down its condemnatory language when referring to gay couples and avoid phrases such as "intrinsically disordered" when speaking of homosexuals."

I'm not taking a position on the underlying, just pointing out it sure looks like things are changing within the Church from 1994.


In a dramatic shift in tone, a Vatican document said on Monday that homosexuals had "gifts and qualities to offer" and asked if Catholicism could accept gays and recognize positive aspects of same-sex couples.

The document, prepared after a week of discussions at an assembly of 200 bishops on the family, said the Church should challenge itself to find "a fraternal space" for homosexuals without compromising Catholic doctrine on family and matrimony.

While the text did not signal any change in the Church's condemnation of homosexual acts or its opposition to gay marriage, it used language that was less judgmental and more compassionate than past Vatican statements under previous popes.

"Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a further space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home," said the document, known by its Latin name "relatio".

John Thavis, Vatican expert and author of the bestselling 2013 book "The Vatican Diaries", called the document "an earthquake" in the Church's attitude towards gays.

"The document clearly reflects Pope Francis' desire to adopt a more merciful pastoral approach on marriage and family issues," he said.

A number of participants at the closed-door synod have said the Church should tone down its condemnatory language when referring to gay couples and avoid phrases such as "intrinsically disordered" when speaking of homosexuals.

That was the phrase used by former Pope Benedict in a document written before his election, when he was still Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and head of the Vatican's doctrinal department.


The language and tone of Monday's document, read to the assembly in the presence of Pope Francis, appeared to show that the advocates of a more merciful tone toward homosexuals and Catholics in so-called "irregular situations" had prevailed.

It said that the 1.2 billion-member Church should see the development of its position on homosexuals as "an important educational challenge" for the global institution.

While the Church continued to affirm that gay unions "cannot be considered on the same footing as matrimony between man and woman", it should recognize that there could be positive aspects to relationships in same-sex couples.

"Without denying the moral problems connected to homosexual unions it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the partners," the document said.

Pope Francis has said the Church must be more compassionate with homosexuals, saying last year: "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge."

The Church teaches that while homosexual tendencies are not sinful, homosexual acts are.

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