Friday, February 06, 2015

Shorter Obama...

...burning someone alive is not so bad because one thousand years ago some unspecified Christian did some unspecified awful thing.

President Obama plays "anti-Catholic bingo" at the National Prayer Breakfast to take people's minds off of his non-response to ISIS barbarism:

"Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” Obama said. “In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.”
Obama also denounced Islamic State terrorists for professing to stand up for Islam when they were actually “betraying it.”
“We see ISIL, a brutal vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism,” he said criticizing them for “claiming the mantle of religious authority for such actions.”

Charles Krauthammer observed:

Krauthammer told Sean Hannity, “I was stunned that the president could say something so at once banal and offensive.”

Krauthammer noted that the speech came two days after a shocking act of barbarism, yet Obama’s message is to remember the Crusades. Krauthammer remarked that the story of the Crusades is over, and today’s story is of the overwhelming barbarism due to radical Islam.

“The present issue is Muslim radicalism and how to attack it,” he said.

7 comments:

Toby said...

I went to a catholic church service the Sunday after 9/11. Of course, the pews were packed. Surprisingly to me, the priest's primary message to his flock that day was that he who seeks revenge should dig two graves. The priest was not saying we needed to curl up and die or that the people who perpetrated 9/11 were the same as us. He was quite simply saying evil begets evil.

I saw most of Obama's speech yesterday. He was not, as you erroneously state, saying "burning someone alive is not so bad because one thousand years ago some unspecified Christian did some unspecified awful thing." Interpreting his speech that way is a load of crap and you know it.

I would agree with Mr. Krauthammer that “the present issue is Muslim radicalism and how to attack it. . .” However, I would also agree with those who warn us that becoming what we are fighting in the name of that fight is very close to the same thing as losing. That is not the right way to attack Muslim radicalism. It seems entirely logical to me to look to our own past when Christian radicalism was not yet checked to understand how to attack radicalism today.

Lauran said...

I'm not at all that "stunned" that Obama could say something "at once so banal and so offensive."

Lauran said...

"It seems entirely logical to me to look to our own past when Christian radicalism was not yet checked to understand how to attack radicalism today."

It should also seem entirely logical for you to look to your "unchecked" Christian history BEFORE posting your laughably anti-Christian editorials.

Understanding the mindset behind the long history of unchecked muslim radicalsim would be a perfectly logical starting point to attacking radicalism today, brainiac. Christianity, by the way, would serve as a wise choice in formulating a solution to the problem, not as a contributor to the problem.

Toby said...

Lauren, its obvious you didn't listen to the President's speech. I am not anti-christian nor do I suspect is Mr. Obama. But I suppose what was actually said is not relevant to you. Rather, you hate Obama, so you just go with the flow instead of the facts which you don't bother to learn.

Just out of interest, do you think there is anything factually incorrect in the this sentence from his speech quoted above:
"Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” Obama said. “In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.”

If so, please enlighten me.

Lauran said...

Obama's speech wasn't the issue, Toby, but, clearly, his understanding of the Crusades is on par with yours. And just out of interest, yes, there is a great deal factually wanting in that sentence from his speech.

And, no, I'm not going into the Crusades. Your education is your job, not mine. But I suppose the facts are not relevant to you.

Your loss.

Toby said...

Lauran:
Really, Obama's speech isn't your issue? I recall you writing above "I'm not at all that stunned that Obama could say something at once so banal and so offensive."

I heard a speech addressing the concern that Muslims as a larger group shouldn't be blamed (and perhaps persecuted) for the bad acts of some other Muslims who he (Obama) did not feel represented the true faith of Islam. Every group has bad actors, (shock) even christians.

By the way, ask the Jews how they liked the crusades, or the Eastern Orthodox Christian Church. They both had a barrel of fun. I think Jews still enjoy being blamed by some Christians for the ills of the world. We don't blame all christians, we shouldn't blame all Muslims. Sorry to stray a bit from the official Fox News narrative on Christianity.

Lauran said...

For the last time, Toby--your understanding of the Crusades is no more reliable than your understanding of Christianity, Islam or my comments.

You're not enlightening anyone here. And all the verbal flatulence you can post doesn't change that fact.

 
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